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January 6, 2022By Origin Ten LTD24 Minutes

Film Theory: Spiderman Saved NO ONE (3 Spiderman No Way Home Theories) By The Film Theorists


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okay let’s be real Spider-Man no way home with a blast if nothing else you have to admire the movie that brought together three separate franchises spanning 20 years but that was always the was always the endgame for the MC you from the very beginning but here no one could have seen this one coming just abs

so much fun means that now we have to rip this thing to shreds because that ending man we have got to talk about it the movie was great no Peter Parker’s final wish left me with a lot of questions it seems like I’m not the only one

what happens with all the videos and news reports about him being Spider-Man what did old Tom Holland actually wish for in the final moments of the movie and what does that actually translate to based on every clue that we see in the film’s final moments and more importantly what does it mean for the future of this character this franchise that my friends is what I’m aiming to answer today

welcome to film Theory where I use my peter tingle each and every week to spot and solve Laura Mysteries obviously get your mind out of the gutter guys Amazing Spider-Man no way home really needs no introduction at this point it seems like everyone in the world has seen this thing probably has actually considering that it had the number to opening weekend of all time of any movie ever insane it only took that one single weekend to make the highest grossing movie of 2021 after a year were theaters were really struggling to find their footing the old Webhead prove that people were willing to come back provided you have a huge ippl phone of Cinemas biggest Cliffhangers and tap into 20 years of built-up nostalgia no biggie but this movie really does have it all that’s a bad guys come together Tobey Maguire get in the back crack great power great responsibility all that stuff really solid across the board but don’t hear any time you going to be getting some questions from Laura nerd like me and this movie leaves open some big one question

trying to definitively answer today or you don’t have definitive as I can until they found something to fit the ongoing narrative that they’re looking to tell for most why are we stopping Peter Parker ask doctor strange to cast a spell that makes everyone forget that he’s Spider-Man after Peter tampers with the spell one too many times it breaks the fabric of reality opening the door for villains like lizard and Octavius come through from other universes because as the movie tells us they knew the Spider-Man Peter Parker connection most of them did prompting our first major discussing here is a bit hazy on this point since the Amazing Spider-Man 2 Max Dillon never explicitly makes the Peter Parker Spider-Man connection Andrew Garfield space at the end of the movie says that he’d assume that Peter Parker was going to be black the entire time so that’s just a lighter is being sloppy so they can fit in a Miles Morales Joker they actually plan some level of four.

that we mere nerds aren’t privy to what there are two possible ways to explain electoral is present both of which require a fair amount of squinting to make sure was and this is a direct quote from the movie. I can’t play for obvious reasons he was stuck in the grid absorbing Data before his memory disappears and he dies now this isn’t exactly true if you go back to the source material was actually in a power grid the hydroelectric power grid and I know science wasn’t your strongest suit Hollywood so this might come as a shock to you but electricity is different than the internet I know I know I was just as blown away as you are but I guess if you’re assuming that he’s absorbing electricity and internet in this scene then you could say that Max got the info through accessing Peter’s online data may be like I said it’s a pretty weak sauce explanation be other angle here and this is the one that I think is canonical to the story and also works with the whole I thought you’d be black joke cuz that Max does no Spider-Man’s name is Peter just doesn’t know his face in the final fight Electra was knocked

conscious after playing the Itsy Bitsy Spider on the power grid movie just makes all the worst decisions Wednesday’s he arrives and calls out to Peter at which point we smashed at the electro becoming alert and ready to attack again you turn it on no matter what and that’s Peter’s best friend Harry who breaks Electro out of captivity to help him take care of Spider-Man Harry Osborn

Harry knows that Peter and Spider-Man Cher’s album sort of connection you took his picture you know him very most likely tells all of it to Electro after he breaks them out do next here’s the name Peter from when he is able to make that final connection to Peter Parker Harry’s friend that he was told about a boy there you go screenwriters I saved your butts on that one tells me that no one really intended all of that but it does manage to workout when you’re read between the lines and we put an electrical side I’m more interested in the bigger question why only the villain why don’t we see anyone else come through here like girlfriends or best friend in the same religion Mary Jane North Peters identity All Too Well The Amazing Spider-Man Gwen Stacy treats it like it’s the most casual thing in the world to hear you Osborne from both universes know Peter Secret

so was this just a decision made out of convenience or is there an actual in Universe explanation for it up pretty well with the lore again if this was intentional or not but his doctor strange prepares his magic Peter requests that his girlfriend his best friend and Aunt May all get Exempted from the cell so everything’s going to forget about everything and remove them from the magic to try and meet Peters request however when the whole thing goes haywire and people who knew Peters identities are crossing over if those people are still eliminated as such all the girlfriend best friend and aren’t included and therefore don’t cross over into the empty you was it intentional know probably not is it cool coincidence that helps explain the rationale for that part of movie yeah I think so. The other things movie just kind of glasses over there that was interesting to think about what the implication of curing all of the characters on the movie of Peter sacrificing and losing everything putting at me to try and cure these villain working under the assumption

receiving their lives and give him a second chance and their own universes except nope nope that is decidedly not true the Sandman doesn’t die in his movie so kind of lost cause they’re the same thing with the lizard already he is transformed back into a human by the end of his movie so redundancies were done did that leave the Electro and Green Goblin neither of whom want to be cured which over the big old can an ethical worms about forcing to cure an individual that don’t want to be here but worst of all perhaps is the situation for dococu if he actually look back at the original movie wouldn’t be saved at all and no way home he says that he’s pulled over into Tom Hollands reality in the middle of a battle against Spider-Man specifically he says quote Spiderman was trying to stop my Fusion reactor so I stopped him I had him by the throat that I was here like a Spider-Man by the throat and Spider-Man to the fusion reactor is already seconds away from exploding it is far beyond the point of saving the good doctor himself is near seconds away from his own room

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Natok already makes the decision to turn good and sacrificed himself so Tom Holland help with a fixed neural implant here also amounts to just a meaningless gesture for something that was going to happen anyway enjoy this whole movie was extraneous because the either don’t change any characters outcome or you just cure people who don’t want to be cured in the first place sorry about your sacrifice that man doesn’t look like it did much good but hey at least you got to stay there but now the Big 12 ending with the end of the movie The Green Goblin use of the pumpkin bombs to destroy the day with box Machina causing reality to shred and even more entities to try and cross over into Tom Hollands Universe Doctor Strange tries to repair the rift but it’s just too much he can’t contain it so with no other option Peter makes one final sacrifice he asked strange to make the world forget about Peter Parker now Ivory watch the scene a couple of times and this is exactly how it’s transcribed they’re here because of you what if everyone forgot who I was there coming here because of me right cuz I’m Peter Parker so cast a new spell but this time make

everyone forget who Peter Parker is make everyone forget me that would mean everyone who knows and loves you would have no memory of you would be as though you never existed and works the rift gets repaired in the world no longer know the identity of Spider-Man MJ Ned happy and all the others have no clue who Peter is so it’s just a simple memory wipe spell right but still complicated to understand about that it’s only wear that simple as Peter and Disney are more than happy to remind us of repeatedly throughout the movie Peter is the most famous person in the world at this point because Mysterio out at him is the identity of Spider-Man and he did this in the form of a video to that video get wiped Away by the spell let’s assume that it was but then what about all the other physical evidence of Peter Parker or the big climax Peter takes a selfie video that gets broadcast out to the world does that disappear to or his text messages to m.j. or flashes book are those all just gone about his application to MIT the simple answer here would be

spell dusted all of those things to all physical traces of Peter Parker just poof away like Doctor Strange said it’ll be as though you never existed except yet again it’s not that clear-cut we see the final scenes of the movie that mg is wearing the broken Black Dahlia necklace that Peter Gabriel in the previous movie in addition we learned that both dead and m.j. have gotten into MIT something that Peter had a direct hand in earlier in the film seems like it’s physical actions have had some sort of memory on the world even if the world doesn’t necessarily remember him so maybe Peters just gone then write everything he touched an altered up that point stays with anything with the name Peter Parker on it’s just dust it away again on one hand we see Peter studying for his GED for those who don’t know the GED here in the u.s. is a test that allows you to show that you have high school level skill by taking it in passing it functions pretty much the same way as a diploma is taking it implies either a that is academic record has been erased as part of the spell or be he isn’t returning to finish the school year

he no longer has a student records but on the other hand we see Peter get himself in apartment this implies that he has to have himself some level of an identity as well as a fairly decent credit score is anyone has ever tried to get an apartment until you need a social security number and a history of income to be able to lease from a landlord so a lot of conflicting information there but of all the conflicting evidence we have none perhaps as confusing as his interactions with happy at Aunt needs great when Peter asked how he knew her happy replies through Spider-Man so happy no Spider-Man but again not Peter Parker how could that possibly make any sense because happy nose may not be a Spider-Man but because Spider-Man is connected to Peter Parker without the link of Peter Parker there is no way for happy to meet Mady and yet somehow under the arbitrary rules of the spell he does apparently know her which then prompt the question does that mean MJ under the memory spell remembers being Spider-Man’s girlfriend cuz yeah and she knows Spider-Man but she doesn’t know Peter

with Ned does he know that he’s Spider-Man’s guy in the chair taking all of the evidence and questions a new account I think there’s only one way to explain all of this to spell doesn’t erase Peter Parker from existence it just a racist people’s memory of him and along with that erases any physical thing that would be considered or connected to a memory of him but Peters achievements aftermath of thing that he’s explicitly done those all remain it’s a difference of qualitative versus quantitative action which is pretty confusing to let me play with some examples stereo video claiming that he’s being attacked by Spider Man that still exists because it was tied to an action that was being done by Spider-Man with the part where he calls out Peter Parker that now is gone because it would be dependent on the stereo knowing Peter Parker flashes book gone because it’s based on flashes relationship and memories with Peter Parker meanwhile Peters bank account and social security number of those would remain running money and putting it into a bank or being given a social security number or physical acts that don’t hinge on the memory or

Denby of Peter Parker just like giving a physical necklace to m.j. she has the necklace but I would guess she doesn’t remember where she got it from those actions exist separate from the identity of Peter basically when people see his name they’ll just think of them as some random Anonymous person like we CMG do in the coffee shop so what then would this mean for the series well if I’m right it would mean that both mg and that it shouldn’t remember their interactions with Spider-Man the both of them he was Peter Parker first and when they’re helping Spider-Mans are really helping Peter so all those memories have got to go happy meanwhile I was able to fall into the opposite bucket his relationship with Peter started through the identity of Spider-Man and Molly certainly grew to love the boy behind the mask the root of that relationship was the secret identity just allowing him to remember Aunt May and chop those memories up to Spider Man’s influence likewise Spider-Man should still be able to continue on as an Avenger but feared no one will know his real name making the eventual reunions with the guardian of the galaxy

The Avengers man but me what’s most interesting about all this is how it relates to the vultures Myra call he’s the biggest dangling threaten the series the only one who knows Spider-Man’s identity and who keeps getting teased is pulling together a Sinister Six morbius movie when I should stay in touch with her morbius is now a part of them to you until he’s responsive thus far has been yes and there being real cagey about it but in reality no no he’s not this is all just a fake out by the rules that we just going over the vulture wouldn’t know Peter secret identity in the car in homecoming would be a forgotten memory has such all of the cheeses from both morbius and Tom Holland Spider-Man movies should ultimately amount to nothing and moments in trailers like this or just more instances of movie studios pulling boners that’s a Ralph boner for those who don’t get the references

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boner all of it fake house to sell tickets so there you have it friends no way home a lot of semen gaps in the plot that just squeaked by getting solved if you look at them deep enough well-done screenwriters Escape me this time which leaves us then with a single Spider Man Who had literally no history when a nice clean slate to start a brand new Trilogy on one might call it a reboot of sorts and weight max mobs absent during post credit scene to set us up for the Multiverse of Madness this story is going to wrap up in such a way that while there can be a path forward for Tom Hollands Peter Parker he could also be soft reboot and I guess sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut but that’s just a theory film Theory